Are you sure AD08R is quieter than Re71R? I will up the fronts to 245s to replace the 235s on now. Are these any better grip wise? On the other hand, it has better turn-in, better cornering grip, and better feel. Well, I had the Pilot Sport P4's installed on my 430 today and all I have to say is that after the first few hundred feet I felt like, (You must log in or sign up to post here. The RE71Rs are my second set, which have 17,000 miles on them. I will be picking up the RE71R's when my Pilot Super Sports wear out. When I purchased the car, it came with a mismatched set of all weather tires that I took to an HPDE session at the beginning of 2019. They wear more like 150tw however. I will put them on my 16M when the Pilot Super Sports wear out. Help millions of other tyre buyers, Sorry, we don't currently have any label data for the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R. 300 vs 200 treadwear rating (lasts 66% longer), better in the wet, I'm not even sure if your car or driver can use the performance advantage of the r71r compared to PSS. ). I'll take the slight comfort, noise and wear penalty to have a tire that I know will just stick when I need it to. One last thought. But having driven both in anger now, I'm going to say that Pilot Sport 4S tires on their third event are probably as good as RE-71R tires on their third event. In fact, I will probably end up putting the RE71R on every car we own, for which they have the correct fitment (other than our BMW X1). I was leaning RE11 vs RE71. But that is just me. As I also don't track this car, other than fun 'parade' laps at Watkins Glen and Lime Rock, I've found them to perform flawlessly. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2. They were pretty quiet when they were newer. A bit under two years ago with 13,000 miles and plenty of tread left I decided that time was the enemy of those tires and a threat to my well-being. Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. A tad noisy on the highway due to thread pattern. The first session of this year was at the same track and the difference was night and day. That's impressive. Part of MOTORSPORT NETWORK. They are pretty noisy for daily driving.
I noticed it more as it's worn down a bit. RE71R have been dominating Autocross events in America for years now. Thanks, it looks like its more sticky and strong sidewall than pss and ps4s. © 2020 MOTORSPORT NETWORK. With the RE71R's at 3 track days and an autocrosss day, the wear is in the 50% range and I expect to have to change them sometime during the next track season. These are the ultimate autocross/time trial tire in the 200tw or higher category. It should be other way around. The RE71R’s are my second set, which have 17,000 miles on them. These will be daily drivers with a lot of highway cruise and rain. Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it … I'm not going to tell you that the Pilot Sport 4S is better than the RE-71R.
Discussion in '360/430' started by michaelo, Nov 15, 2017. I have no opinion on their wet weather or cold weather behavior as I live in Phoenix, AZ and if it rains I don't go out.
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Tyre review data from 8 tyre reviews averaging 78% over 52,400 miles driven. The tires provide all the grip you want short of mounting hoosiers to the car. Lots of grip and great in the rain. Never tracked or drag raced on these tires, just some high speed ramps to highways and a long 4,000 mile trip across country. It might be 1 sec (in the dry r71r) faster, compared to 2-3 sec faster in the wet for the PSS.
I think that I will be able to get at least 2 seasons out of the 4S vs. about 1 or maybe a little more with the RE71R. Have YOU got experience with the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R? I need a little more front grip to have less understeer. Also, they sound like a winter tire driving down the road. While the PS4S have now survived the equivalent of 5 track days with relatively little wear, there are a coupe of spots where the tread has chunked.
In my most recent track session, with the tire warn about 50%, I've seen cornering forces in the 1.4G range and the tire just sticks. That and the fact that they look aggressive/cool as hell.
I look at value per dollar to be competitive at the pointy … But after almost a year of the RE71Rs, they are all chipped up. Has constant performance throughout the life of the tyres unlike the ad08r which was great for the first 30% and the rest felt like skating on ice.
The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. I'm concerned with road noise, ... A 255 RE71R will give you more traction than a 275 PSS.
Looks great! Those tires were terrible and the ABS was constantly engaging. Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. Here's a pic of the rear tire side profile. I've been running my RE71R for almost a year now. But from a performance standpoint, they are so good at what they do. Sure looks familiar.
I'm running these tires on a '98 Porsche Boxster.
Lasted me about 20000 miles, only 3 track days but incredibly aggressive daily driving. We also don't track cars mid-summer because no one want to put themselves (or their cars) out on the track when it is 120F in the shade. Looks like they've got comparable tread life. Currently running 245/40/17 PS4S on 17x8 +35 wheel.
Also, it does not appear to heat up as much on the track as the PS4S. Perhaps in a colder climate I would not feel the same way, as cold weather and extreme performance tires don't get along. They do not talk when on limit like a normal street tire, instead they grip quietly until they break free, making an awful groaning noise when they do, not the typical high pitched screeching. Keep in mind that the Z4 is a much heavier car and has a lot more power.
ABS no longer engaged, turn-in was spectacular, grip phenomenal. 225/45-17 in front and 255/40-17 in the rear. Considering they're still 305s on stock wheels. Also amazing how even the wear is across the thread. I fitted the Michelin Pilot Sports.
I have the same tires on my '97 E36 M3 (225/45-17 F, 245/40-17 R) and I love them on that car. Maybe only a couple 200 tw rated tires that come close to the grip these tires offer.
Maybe another 3,000 miles to go, not bad to get 20,000 miles on such soft rubber.
They also kick up a huge amount of debris/pebbles. © 2020 FerrariChat. 2018-05-31 - Is that tyre available in Europe? Don't mean to bring this thread back up, but would you mind posting a pic of how the whole car looks with your tire setup? But for what I use the car for (mixed daily driver / track use), I find the B RE71R to be superior.
I have them on my 2003 BMW M3. I got about 8k out of the rears and 17k from the fronts. They're $128 today and in 2016 were $115. Certain roads they do howl like crazy but around S Florida normally the road surface is not that noisy. All rights reserved.
or it is similar temp as PSS/PS4S? 10/10 will buy again. You will have to spray the tires to keep them cool on hot summer autocross days. Bridgestone RE-71R Extreme Vs, Michelin PS 4S Tires - YouTube Will definitely buy again. One of the most common questions submitted to Tyre Reviews is asking the differences between the Michelin performance tyre range, specifically the differences between the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2..
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Tires are also just more expensive.
It's not, if you're comparing new tires vs. new tires. PSS. 305 rears on the stock 19" wheels? Is that the little league field off PCH and Malibu Cnyn? It appears superior to the Michelin PS4S for track use (the 4S isn't really a track tire) and in my opinion (and without having actually driven a car using them) the RE71R is closer in nature to the M PSC2, but at a much lower price.
Sign up to receive latest updates for Ferrari News, Threads, and Classifieds. Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it crosses painted lines). I will also make the statement that I *think* the PS4S will outlast the RE71R even on the track (or maybe especially on the track) so, even though the PS4S costs a fair amount more, overall the RE71R's may end up being more expensive.
And if I ever decide to take that car to the track again, I know the tires will be up to it. Which model of the BC Forged? Also, the Z4 is front-engined vs. the mid-engine Boxster which probably accounts for some of the improved turn-in for the Boxster. This was always just a daily setup that would be enough to get me back into autocross after 15+ years off.
I find both the PSS and PS4S easily overwhelmed by M4 ZCP power even on 295s. Form or function. for RE71R, does it requires higher temp as MPSC2? Great so far.
My rear fender flare and rear bumper were totally fine with my previous RE-11s.
They replaced Pilot Super Sports. The Bridgestone Potenza RE71R is a Extreme Performance Summer tyre designed to be fitted to Passenger Car. Easily outperforms my previous tyres (ad08r and hankook rs3) in terms of outright grip. They truly are great tires and so much fun to drive aggressively on. Do you have a pic on how much it bulges out? The wet performance is much larger then the dry. Even as a daily driver (I have not tracked that car in 22 years) I think I will stick with the RE71R's when the current set wear out. The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. I always say they are made of "black magic and mozzarella cheese". If money were no object and I was looking for a road only (daily driver, if comfort and noise were important to me) tire, I would go with the M PS4S. Does anyone have experience with PSS vs RE11, PSS vs RE71, or RE11 vs RE71? Passenger Car Summer Extreme Performance tyres, See all 7 customer reviews of the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R (newest first) >>, 2020 All Season Tyre Market Overview - 32 Tyre Braking Test, 2020 AutoBild Van All Season Commercial Tyre Test, New VS 4mm VS 2mm All Season Tyre Performance, 2019 19 Inch Performance Winter Tyre Test, 2020 Auto Bild Performance Winter Tyre Test, 2020 Winter Tyre Market Overview - 52 Tyre Braking Test, Summer, All Season, All Weather, Winter, Nordic Winter and Studded Tyres Tested, 2020 Tyre Reviews Ultimate Summer Tyre Test, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R VS Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport RS VS Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R.
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